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Re: multipal logins... (palpalpal replacement)

Postby autopilot » Wed Mar 19, 2008 8:00 am


The block is being done on the Pal server... there isn't anything we can do about it. The server is checking IP addresses and only letting 1 connection to a room per IP address.

Server side changes like this make it impossible for this version of multipal to work for entering the same room.
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Re: multipal logins... (palpalpal replacement)

Postby Chike » Wed Mar 19, 2008 8:17 am

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dj steve wrote:i can only get in one nic name in room what i get is a err code PT5502

Is it only public rooms or private rooms too? Are all the nicks black?


autopilot wrote:The server is checking IP addresses and only letting 1 connection to a room per IP address.

I doubt it's the IP address, I've seen ppl connected to the same router join the same room/
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Re: multipal logins... (palpalpal replacement)

Postby String » Wed Mar 19, 2008 8:32 am

Each machine on a router can have it's own ip, can it not?
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Re: multipal logins... (palpalpal replacement)

Postby Chike » Wed Mar 19, 2008 8:41 am

String wrote:Each machine on a router can have it's own ip, can it not?

I guess with some routers they can, however the majority cable/adsl providers give you only one, and most home routers operate as a NAT
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Re: multipal logins... (palpalpal replacement)

Postby autopilot » Wed Mar 19, 2008 4:19 pm

Each PC connected to the router still has its own IP address. And we know that the pal client is sending the local IP to the server along with all the other personal information that it is sending.
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Re: multipal logins... (palpalpal replacement)

Postby Chike » Wed Mar 19, 2008 4:34 pm

autopilot wrote:And we know that the pal client is sending the local IP to the server along with all the other personal information that it is sending

We did? LOL I didn't.
I'd still like to see if Departure has anything to say about this.
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Re: multipal logins... (palpalpal replacement)

Postby Hien Hoa » Thu Mar 20, 2008 4:28 pm

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Re: multipal logins... (palpalpal replacement)

Postby dj steve » Thu Mar 20, 2008 7:18 pm

thanks ges you fix it sooooooooooon:) :pb:
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Re: multipal logins... (palpalpal replacement)

Postby Zeus » Thu Mar 20, 2008 10:06 pm

Chike wrote:
String wrote:Each machine on a router can have it's own ip, can it not?

I guess with some routers they can, however the majority cable/adsl providers give you only one, and most home routers operate as a NAT


Most ISPs (in the USA at least) have options / packages that you can opt for allowing multiple IP addresses. Comcast for example charges an extra $5 a month is all. You will still need an router that can assign WAN IP to LAN IP or just a simple switch. Comcast assigns IP addresses according to MAC address. So with the switch in place the MAC address of each computer gets assigned a seperate WAN IP. Personally I have 1 switch with multiple routers behind the switch (overkill I know), so the MAC address of the router gets assigned a WAN IP.

Its not a server side block on the WAN IP. I just tested using Departures 9.2 236 work and brought 2 black names into the same room.

/edit: we are not allowed to discuss the c word here... :mrgreen:
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Re: multipal logins... (palpalpal replacement)

Postby Chike » Fri Mar 21, 2008 4:52 am

Zeus wrote:I just tested using Departures 9.2 236 work and brought 2 black names into the same room.

From the same machine/windows session, and a public room?
It was quite obvious it's not the public IP but if it's the local IP or something else.
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Re: multipal logins... (palpalpal replacement)

Postby Zeus » Fri Mar 21, 2008 6:01 am

Chike wrote:From the same machine/windows session, and a public room?
It was quite obvious it's not the public IP but if it's the local IP or something else.


Yes. Same public (WAN) IP same machine/windows session same local (LAN) IP and a public room.
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Re: multipal logins... (palpalpal replacement)

Postby autopilot » Fri Mar 21, 2008 8:36 am

Zeus wrote:Its not a server side block on the WAN IP. I just tested using Departures 9.2 236 work and brought 2 black names into the same room.

It is a Server side block and the reason that Dep's solution works is that it sends random garbage info for the machine spacific info that the pal server requests.
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Re: multipal logins... (palpalpal replacement)

Postby Chike » Fri Mar 21, 2008 8:54 am

autopilot wrote:It is a Server side block and the reason that Dep's solution works is that it sends random garbage info for the machine spacific info that the pal server requests.

I don't think it deals with any server requests, it only return random data for certain registry keys, and to obtain the local IP there's no need to read the registry.
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Re: multipal logins... (palpalpal replacement)

Postby dj steve » Sat Mar 22, 2008 3:45 pm

what if i use a ip blocker will i get on with 2 nic names in same room than ??? :pg: :roll:
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Re: multipal logins... (palpalpal replacement)

Postby Chike » Sat Mar 22, 2008 4:57 pm

dj steve wrote:what if i use a ip blocker will i get on with 2 nic names in same room than ??? :pg: :roll:

LOL wth is IP blocker?
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